SINCERE DISCLAIMER
Since we will be discussing the
Conception, Pregnancy, and Birth of Yahshua when he came to Planet Earth as a human being, we both do agree that it is a Biological event, though a
miraculous one.
Since it’s a biological event, so please pardon me and excuse me right
at the beginning, as I will not be prudish, or embarrassed or shy in addressing
the sexual nature of this wonderful miracle.
Yahshua was the “Only Begotten Son” for a fact. – John 1:14
But according to the Scriptures, not according to the thoughts or traditions or feelings of Men, when did these two events actually really happen: Conception and being Begotten.
- When was Yahshua conceived (or birth) and who was directly involved according to the Scripture at the conception (or birth) of Yahshua as a human being?
- Was the word, “Begotten” in English or “Monogenes” in Greek actually used at his birth announcement by Angel Gabriel? Was the word, “begotten” or “conceived” used at Yahshua’s birth?
- When does the Scripture actually uses the word, “begotten” in connection with Yahshua and why?
A. When was Yahshua conceived and who was directly involved according to the Scripture at the conception of Yahshua as a human being?
We both will be in agreement, that the Maiden (Virgin) Mary was CONCEIVED by the miraculous power of the HOLY SPIRIT (Ruach Chodesh). – Matthew 1:20
We both will be in agreement, that the Maiden (Virgin) Mary was CONCEIVED by the miraculous power of the HOLY SPIRIT (Ruach Chodesh). – Matthew 1:20
Many non-believers find it very difficult as to how
can a Virgin get pregnant. BUT NOT ANY
MORE. Because when Yahweh does any Miracles he does not break his OWN CREATED
LAWS OF SCIENCE. Most of the miracles mentioned in the Bible are done within
the boundaries of Science. ONLY we humans have not reached the maximum
potential of our kind to understand its operations or be able to do it.
Now with the aid of modern developed science, many Virgin Women are able to become pregnant even
without genuinely 100% having sex with any man. YES. Today it is possible for
Virgin woman to become pregnant, WITHOUT HAVING SEX WITH ANY MAN. In a similar
but natural way with medical aid. This
is possible with IVF medical technology or better called as In Vitro
Fertilization.
The Bible says that Yahshua’s
mother, Mary was
a virgin. In other words, Joseph did not have sex with Mary to get her
pregnant with the baby Yahshua. The Bible says Mary conceived Yahshua while
remaining a virgin. Apparently the "Holy spirit" visited Mary and
somehow miraculously got her pregnant. (NOT THE WAY OUR HUMAN MINDS THINK. NO. THE HOLY SPIRIT DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH MARY)
“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall
overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
Luke 1:35
We both will be in agreement, that the Holy Spirit (Ruach Quodesh) is Yahweh’s
personal and active FORCE or AGENT that goes ahead and does whatever Yahweh
wishes to happen. – Genesis 1:2
As per the above Scripture at Luke 1:35
Ø The Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit / Ruach Quodesh) came
UPON MARY.
Ø The POWER of the HIGHEST OVERSHADOWED MARY.
So what I want to say is that, the agent or power of Yahweh
that is the Holy Spirit somehow miraculously and supernaturally took the Sperms
from Joseph’s body, without him knowing and then transplanted the same inside
the womb of Mary. THAT'S WHY YAHWEH’S WORD IS SO ACCURATE WHEN THE SCRIPTURE
REFERS TO YAHSHUA AS THE SON OF MAN MANY TIMES.
This is because Yahshua was truly
a Man, a Human being in every way.
The term, Son of man, is
used by Yahshua 80 times as a way to refer to himself (32 times in Matthew; 14
times in Mark; 26 times in Luke; and 10 times in John).
The term occurs only five times in the rest of the New Testament outside the Gospels. In Acts 7:56, Stephen says that he sees the heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God; Hebrews 2:6 quotes Psalm 8:4 and applies the words to Yahshua: 'What is man, that you are mindful of him, or the Son of man, that you care for him'; and in Revelation 1:13-15 and 14:14 Yahshua is 'One like a Son of man' (ὅμοιον υἱὸν ἀνθρώπου). Yahweh could do this through his Holy Spirit, but miraculously and supernaturally wonderful way.
The term occurs only five times in the rest of the New Testament outside the Gospels. In Acts 7:56, Stephen says that he sees the heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God; Hebrews 2:6 quotes Psalm 8:4 and applies the words to Yahshua: 'What is man, that you are mindful of him, or the Son of man, that you care for him'; and in Revelation 1:13-15 and 14:14 Yahshua is 'One like a Son of man' (ὅμοιον υἱὸν ἀνθρώπου). Yahweh could do this through his Holy Spirit, but miraculously and supernaturally wonderful way.
A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON HOW COMPLETELY HUMAN
YAHSHUA’S BIRTH WAS: Truly he was the
Son of Man too.
When the book of 1 John was being written, John here likely confronts the
early stages of Gnosticism. This radical teaching from the Greek gnostikos
and means,
“learned”. Through their alleged secret, mystic knowledge, Gnostics viewed
matter as inherently evil and spirit as inherently good. It was this belief
that gave rise to the doctrine that the Messiah did not come in the flesh,
which John
addresses in 4:2-3.
1 John 5:8 King James
Bible
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and
the
water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
The point of the above verse is that John is dealing with Gnostics who did not believe Yahshua was born in the flesh and John was showing that at conception it was the Water and the Blood to make the Fetus, at Yahshua’s birth.
The point of the above verse is that John is dealing with Gnostics who did not believe Yahshua was born in the flesh and John was showing that at conception it was the Water and the Blood to make the Fetus, at Yahshua’s birth.
The Conception was done by the Holy Spirit, and it was the
Water and the Blood in Mary’s womb that made the Fetus. So Yahshua was born a
perfect human.
MODERN DAY SCIENCE
AND WHAT IS THE FETUS MADE UP OFF:
ü AMNIOTIC FLUID IS WATER: In the early weeks of pregnancy, the amniotic fluid is mostly water that comes from your body.
After about 20 weeks of pregnancy, your baby's urine makes up most of the fluid. Amniotic fluid also contains nutrients, hormones
(chemicals made by the
body), and antibodies (cells in the body that fight off infection).
ü UNBORN BABY GETS BLOOD FROM WHERE: The unborn baby is
connected to the placenta by the umbilical cord. All the necessary nutrition,
oxygen, and life support from the mother's blood go through the placenta and to the baby through blood vessels in the umbilical
cord.
But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his
side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. - John 19:34
Yahshua was born through water and blood and at his death, the soldier stabbed him in the side and water and blood came out.
Yahshua was born through water and blood and at his death, the soldier stabbed him in the side and water and blood came out.
Right now today, we have thousands of women all
over the world that have had children through In vitro fertilization, more commonly
known as IVF treatment. Even many lesbian couples today go to a sperm bank and
select donor sperm for their child. Then a Medical scientist or Doctor or
Medical Technologist will mix the donor sperm with an egg from one of the women
in a test tube. They only make the Egg and the Sperm meet in laboratory-controlled conditions. In simple language, it is said in a Test Tube. They then
implant the fertilized embryo (Forced
Meeting or Conception happened outside the body) into one of the women and she
is pregnant. These women can & have been virgins, or others who are
married, at least they don't have to have sex to get pregnant. Just like the
Virgin Mary in the Bible.
B. Was the word, “Begotten” in English or “Monogenes” in Greek actually used at his birth announcement by Angel Gabriel? Was the word, “begotten” or “conceived” used at Yahshua’s birth?
NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Check at any and all of the Gospels reporting Yahshua’s birth. Not a single inspired writer has ever mentioned that the birth was an ONLY BEGOTTEN BIRTH. No.
The expression “only
begotten” is the Greek word, “Monogenes”, which literally means, “Only
generated.” Monogenes has two primary definitions,
"pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific
relationship" and "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or
class, unique in-kind". Thus monogenēs (μονογενής) may be used both as an
adjective monogenēs pais, meaning unique and special.
It appears six times in the King James Bible—John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Hebrews 11:17, and 1 John 4:9. The one in Hebrews is about Isaac; the other five refer to Yahshua Messiah.
It appears six times in the King James Bible—John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, Hebrews 11:17, and 1 John 4:9. The one in Hebrews is about Isaac; the other five refer to Yahshua Messiah.
We will look briefly at those
verses now:
John 1:14: “And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only
begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:18: “No man hath seen God at any
time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath
declared him.”
John 3:16: “For God so loved the world,
that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:18: “He that believeth on him is
not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath
not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
Hebrews 11:17: “By faith
Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the
promises offered up his only begotten son,”
1 John 4:9: “In this was manifested the
love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten
Son into the world that we might live through him.
C. When does the Scripture actually use the word, “begotten” in connection with Yahshua and why?
C. When does the Scripture actually use the word, “begotten” in connection with Yahshua and why?
SO
NOW THE QUESTION ARISES, WHEN DOES YAHWEH’S INSPIRED
SCRIPTURES TELL US ABOUT THE BEGETTING OF HIS SON YAHSHUA?
When
the King James Bible calls Yahshua “God’s only begotten Son” in
the Book of John and in the Book of 1 John, it links back to an Old Testament
concept found in the Book of Psalms.
Psalm 2:7, says: “I will declare the
decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten
thee.”
Now,
when did Yahshua become the “only begotten Son of God?” When was Psalm 2:7 fulfilled?
A common assumption is that Psalms 2:7 was fulfilled when Yahshua was born in Bethlehem of Judaea. However, the Bible teaches
something else. Acts
13:33-34 makes the truth
quite plain: “[33] “God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in
that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second
psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. [34] And as
concerning that, he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to
corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.”
According
to the Apostle Paul, led by the Holy Spirit to preach Acts 13:33-34,
Psalm 2:7 is properly interpreted as being fulfilled at Yahshua’s resurrection.
It was at the resurrection that Father God gave Yahshua life—He became
God’s (Elohim’s) “only begotten Son” at His resurrection in the
tomb.
LET’S
CHECK SOME MORE SCRIPTURES TO COME TO THIS SOLID CONCLUSION.
Hebrews 5:5: “So also Christ glorified not himself to be
made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have
I have begotten thee” (According to the writer of the Book of
Hebrews, Father Elohim Yahweh resurrected Yahshua in order to ordain Him as
Israel’s high priest.)
Revelation 1:5: “And
from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of
the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and
washed us from our sins in his own blood….” (The expression “first begotten of the dead” again tells us
that “begotten” is connected to resurrection. “First
begotten” is defined even further in Colossians 1:18, a scripture which we take
next.)
Colossians 1:18: “And he is the
head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the
dead; that in all things he might have the pre-eminence.” (Here
Yahshua is called “the firstborn from the dead” because His
resurrection is the first of many subsequent resurrections.)
SCRIPTURAL CONCLUSION
Yahshua's father was not a man but
Yahweh Himself. Luke
1:32.
The
very first man Adam was a direct creation of Father Elohim Yahweh, so Adam’s father was NOT a man.
Adam was NOT even born of any human parents. Adam was not connected to the
UMBILICAL CORD OF A WOMAN LIKE YAHSHUA WAS in Mary’s womb. Adam COULD NOT have a
NAVEL on his stomach as he was NOT born from any Woman’s womb. Adam was a
direct creation of Father Yahweh. So does that then make Adam to be an Elohim or
Elohim Yahweh. NO.
And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived,
and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD (YAHWEH).
The man knew Eve his wife. She conceived, and
gave birth to Cain, and said, "I have gotten a man with Yahweh's
help."
New
World Translation of the Holy Scriptures 2013 Edition
Now Adam had sexual relations with his wife
Eve and she became pregnant. When she gave birth to Cain,
she said: “I have produced a male child with the help of Jehovah.”
If one
can say that, “Yahshua's father
was not a man but Yahweh Himself.’ (MAJOR CORRECTION PLEASE: IT WAS
YAHWEH’S HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SET APART RUACH HA KODESH, NOT YAHWEH HIMSELF.)
Then from the above
scriptural record of Eve’s Quoted words, it looks like she feels or thinks that
her firstborn son outside the Garden of Eden, “Her firstborn son’s Father was not Adam but Yahweh himself”.
Yahweh
Elohim has many sons, but He has one, “only begotten Son.”
The Messiah Yahshua is rightly
called in the King James Bible, “the only begotten Son of God.” Furthermore, the
word “begotten” refers to His resurrection,
actually, not His birth in Bethlehem as often supposed (cf. Acts 13:33-34). Yahshua
is the first son that Father Elohim Yahweh has raised from the dead:
He is the “firstborn from the dead” and “first begotten of the
dead” in the sense that there are more sons to follow Him in the
resurrection. (This is why Yahshua is called “the first fruits” of
resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15:23.
Firstfruits are the few plants that ripen before
the main harvest matures.) Father Elohim
Yahweh resurrected his Son Yahshua. He will resurrect Israel’s believing
remnant one day. He will also resurrect us the Church (Eklessia) the Body &
Bride of Yahshua one day in the future soon. All of these sons of God (Elohim
are one giant line of resurrected beings in Father Elohim’s purpose and plan. As of right now though, Yahshua Ha Messiah
is “the only begotten Son of God”.
John 20:28 says (KJV)...
Greek...
Meaning of Worship in English language:
Merriam –
Webster Definition of Worship:
1.
Worship
2.
Worship
Worship verb (RELIGION)
Worship verb (ADMIRE)
Yahshua would have been stoned to death if he was understood to be claiming he was Elohim (God) when teaching in the temple, and his disciples would have been driven out of the synagogues and stoned if it was understood that they believed Yahshua was Elohim (God). (Acts 13:13-16, 42; Acts 17: 1, 2; Acts 17:1; Acts 18:4; Acts 19:8)
Nowhere in the synoptic Gospels (the first Gospels to be written: Matthew, Mark, and Luke) do the family, friends, disciples (or enemies) of Yahshua say anything even hinting that they thought he was Elohim (God) (or that he was teaching or claiming that he was Elohim (God). That such essential new information (if true) should be ignored completely is impossible to believe. Compare all the times Yahshua is called the "Christ" or "Messiah". Since these were written many years before the fourth Gospel, they should show the most important news about Yahshua’s information which is essential for his followers to know. (John 17:3)
Those Jewish leaders who wanted Yahshua dead could have merely said that he claimed to be the Almighty Elohim (God) Yahweh. (An automatic death sentence). But, although they condemned him to death because he claimed to be the Messiah, they never accused him of being Elohim (God) in the Synoptic Gospels. They even hired false witnesses to lie about him, but even those false witnesses did not accuse Yahshua of claiming to be Elohim (God). - Matthew 26:59 -63.
"OBEISANCE" in the KJV Bible
The Immediate Context of a Passage
Meaning of Proskuneo
“Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of Elohim, because he keepeth not the Sabbath day. Others said, how can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.” – John 9:16 (RSB)
“And he said, Master, I believe. And he worshipped him.”- John 9:38 (RSB)
Douay-Rheims Bible
And he said: I believe, Lord. And falling down, he adored him.
Does the fact that, if Worship is given to Yahshua (Jesus) does
that prove That He is Almighty Elohim (God), Yahweh?
No.
The "worship" given to Yahshua (Jesus) means no more than the "worship" given to king David as God's representative. "And all the congregation blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king." -- 1 Chronicles 29:20, KJV
The "worship" given to King David did not prove that he was God.
But like David, as God's representative, Yahshua (Jesus) is given deference and respect, "worship" in that form as Elohim’s (God's) resurrected Son and heavenly King, but not as Elohim (God).
The act described by proskuneo (or shachah) was of bowing or kneeling, and it generally indicated an act of respect and a display of one's willingness to submit to or serve another person who occupied a superior position, regardless of his nature (somewhat similar to a salute in the military today).
The Hebrew word most often translated "worship" is shachah, and it is usually rendered as proskuneo in the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament. Unger and White say of this word: "Shachah ... 'to worship, prostrate oneself, bow down.'" And, "The act of bowing down in homage done before a superior [in rank] or a ruler. Thus David 'bowed' himself [shachah] before Saul (1 Sam. 24:8). Sometimes it is a social or economic superior to whom one bows, as when Ruth 'bowed' [shachah] to the ground before Boaz (Ruth 2:10)." - Nelson's Expository Dictionary of the Old Testament, 1980, Thomas Nelson Publ., p. 482.
Even the extremely Trinitarian W. E. Vine writes in his An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 1247:
"PROSKUNEO ... to make obeisance, do reverence to (from pros, towards, and kuneo, to kiss), is the most frequent word rendered 'to worship'. It is used for an act of homage or reverence (a) to God ...; (b) to Christ ...; (c) to a MAN, Matthew. 18:26." ("Obeisance," of course, shows "respect, submission, or reverence" - Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961.)
It was done, of course, in its very highest sense to Elohim (God) alone, but it was also done, in a lower sense of the same word, to kings, angels, prophets, even to Yahshua etc. That is why proskuneo is translated "prostrated himself before" at Matthew. 18:26 NASB, even though the KJV uses "worship" there. Notice how other Trinitarian translations render that verse (RSV and NIV for example) where a servant "worships" [proskuneo] his master. And that is why, in the account of the man blind from birth whom Yahshua (Jesus) healed, we see that man giving proskuneo to Yahshua (Jesus) at John 9:38. The ASV, in a footnote for John 9:38, says,
"The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a created person, as here [Yahshua], or to the Creator [Yahweh]."
2.
Thomas called Yahshua Elohim and Yahshua never rebuked him. John 20:28
King James Bible
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
What did Thomas mean when he said to Yahshua,
“My Lord and my God”?
On the
occasion of Yahshua’s appearance to Thomas and the other apostles, which had
removed Thomas’ doubts of Yahshua’ resurrection, the now-convinced Thomas
exclaimed to Yahshua: “My Lord and my God! [literally, “The Lord of me and the
God (ho The·osʹ) of me!”].” (John 20:24-29)
Some scholars have
viewed this expression as an exclamation of astonishment spoken to Yahshua
but actually directed to Elohim Yahweh, his Father. However, others claim the
original Greek requires that the words be viewed as being directed to Yahshua.
Even if this is so,
the expression “My Lord and my God” would still have to harmonize with the rest
of the inspired Scriptures. Since the record shows that Yahshua had
previously sent his disciples the message, “I am ascending to my Father and
your Father and to my God and your God,” there is no reason for believing that Thomas
thought Yahshua was the Almighty Elohim (God). (John 20:17) John himself, after recounting
Thomas’ encounter with the resurrected Yahshua, says of this and similar
accounts: “But these have been written down that you may believe that Yahshua is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.”—John 20:30, 31.
The word
"Lord" (ὁ κύριος) is precisely the Greek translation for the Hebrew
"Adonai." John used the title God here or accurately in Hebrew it is “Elohim”.
John 20:28 says (KJV)...
English
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Greek...
ἀπεκρίθη Θωμᾶς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου.
According to
Meyer's NT Commentary...
ὁ κύριός μου κ. ὁ θεός μου] is taken by Theodore of Mopsuestia
(“quasi pro miraculo facto Deum collaudat,” ed. Fritzsche, p. 41) as an
exclamation of astonishment directed to God.
Accurate
Literal Translation using exact Hebrew words for the Titles:
Halleluyah Scriptures: And
T’oma answered and said to Him, “Adonai and my Elohim”.
There is no objection
to referring to Yahshua (Jesus) as “God,” if this is what Thomas had in mind. Such would
be in harmony with Jesus’ own quotation from the Psalms in which powerful men,
judges, were addressed as “gods.” (John 10:34, 35, RS; Ps. 82:1-6)
Isaiah 9:6 (RS) also
prophetically describes a future title that Yahshua (Jesus) would be called as “Mighty God,” but not as the Almighty God.
The context helps us
to draw the right conclusion from this. Shortly before Yahshua’s death, Thomas had
heard Yahshua pray in which he addressed his Father as “the
only true God.” (John 17:3, RS) After Yahshua’s resurrection, Yahshua had sent a message to
his apostles, including Thomas, in which he had said: “I am ascending. . . to my God
and your God.” (John 20:17, RS) After recording what Thomas said when he actually saw and
touched the resurrected Messiah, the apostle John stated: “These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the
Son of God, and
that believing you may have life in his name.” (John 20:31, RS) So, if anyone has
concluded from Thomas’ exclamation that Yahshua is himself “the only true God”
or that Yahshua is a Trinitarian “God the Son,” he needs to look again at what Yahshua
himself said (vs. 17) and at the conclusion that is clearly stated by the apostle John (vs. 31).
SOME PERSONAL
EXCLAMATIONS MADE IN MY PERSONAL LIFE EXPERIENCE:
Ø
The very first
time in my life when I saw a Female fully naked, I exclaimed in
a loud voice, OH MY GOD. The Girl just like Yahshua did not rebuke me or
correct me. She did not MISTAKE it to understand that I was calling her God when she is nude!!! I also did not understand her to be God!!!! IT WAS JUST AN
EXCLAMATION REMARK IN AN EXCEPTIONAL SITUATION.
Ø
Recently I saw a
disastrous natural landslide on a recorded video. Unknowingly and
without being aware, I exclaimed to myself, “OH MY GOD, WHAT IS THIS HAPPENING?
Now did I mean to say that the Landslide was God? NO.
Ø
Exclaiming, OH MY GOD is also not taking God’s name in vain.
As God or Elohim are Titles and not the personal name of Elohim which is
Yahweh.
Ø Many times in
India, when driving on the Highways, I have seen many people of different religions and faiths,
exclaiming out of fear and astonishment, on seeing a major accident happen
right in front of them. OH MY GOD. Does this mean, 2000 years later when the incident is written or translated in other foreign languages, should the reader
consider that the person who met in the accident was God?
3. Many people
worshiped Yahshua and He never stopped them. Only Elohim should be
worshiped, Rev. 19:10.
Breaking down your
Point Nos 3 for easier understanding:
a)
Many people
worshipped Yahshua.
b)
Yahshua never
stopped people worshipping him.
c)
Only Elohim
should be worshiped. Scripture Quotation from Revelation
19:10
NOTE: For
the purpose of this study, primarily the English Translation of King James
Version (KJV) is used from the Restoration Study Bible (RSB 03rd
Edition). Online Source:
www.m.restorationstudybible.com
All other English translations or versions will have their name mentioned.
Colour Coding
Colour Coding
Ø Non- highlighted = Main Text Content in General. Underlined
text for Emphasis.
Ø Text = Bold =
For added Attention. Text in CAPS just for Appearance.
Ø This Colour Text = When making a Point or for all
Topics headings.
Ø Scripture Quotations always in this color.
= For opening the Scripture in the Bible and reading.
Ø Something that needs extra attention & agreement in this color. All Scripture Quotes and text quoted will be in this color.
Now let’s take one statement at a time
from your above Point Nos 3:
a) Many
people worshipped Yahshua.
Did an exhaustive Word Search for the word
“Worshipped” in the New Testament.
Found a total of 28 instances where the King James Version English Bible
Translation used this English word (worshipped) while translating the Greek
word proskuneo.
28 Instances in New
Testament Scripture of KJV Bible where word, “Worshipped” is used during
translation.
Matthew 2:11, Matthew 8:2, Matthew 9:18, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 15:25,
Matthew 18:26, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Mark 5:6, Mark 15:19, Luke 24:52,
John 4: 20, John 9:38, Acts 10:25, Acts 16:14, Acts 17:25, Acts 18:7, Romans
1:25, 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Hebrews 11:21, Revelation 5:14, Revelation 7:11,
Revelation 11:16, Revelation 13:4, Revelation 16:2, Revelation 19:4, Revelation
19:20, Revelation 20:4
Let’s note it: In Hebrew language
worshipped is shachah and in Greek language it is proskuneo.
How many of the above
Scripture Situations, was the English word “Worshipped” used in connection or
conjunction with Yahshua? Total of 11 Situations or Instances:
Matthew 2:11, Matthew 8:2, Matthew 9:18, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 15:25, Matthew
28:9, Matthew 28:17, Mark 5:6, Mark 15:19, Luke 24:52, John 9:38.
BEFORE WE
PROCEED FURTHER LET’S BE CLEAR ON THIS:
ü
All
translations and versions of the Original Word of Elohim (God) Yahweh from the
Original languages of Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic are NOT DIVINELY INSPIRED and hence can be prone to human error and
Mistakes in Translation. (Not even one English or any other Language
Translation in the whole wide world can claim that their specific translation
is DIVINELY INSPIRED. All are prone to Human Translators Imperfections, are not
infallible and can have human or machine or printing errors in translation work.)
KEEPING THE ABOVE TRUTH AND FACT IN MIND:
Ø
The
Translation of the Bible in the English language CAN & MAY be wrong or
erroneous or faulty.
Ø
The
copied manuscripts CAN & MAY have in it mistakes or differences or
additions as history has evidently documented that human interferences have
occurred during the process of Manuscript copying too.
Ø
The
reader CAN & MAY be misinterpreting the scripture text.
For the above Point Nos 3 discussion we
are using the King James Version of the English language translation. Today we have the luxury of ensuring or
checking that what is in the KJV English Bible translation of 21st
Century, is it 100% accurately translated to the literal words or dynamic
thought or the exact idea that was inspired by our Almighty Elohim Yahweh.
Important Note
on King James Translation of 1611...onwards:
This was the English Bible Translation that was widely attacked mainly
by Islamic Muslim Scholars and other Non Believers in Bible too, proving that
there were around 50000 (Fifty Thousand Mistakes or Errors) in this Bible. Yes. There were Thousands upon Thousands of Errors IN THE ENGLISH
TRANSLATION of KJV Bible but not in the Manuscript Copies or in the Actual
Word of Elohim (God) that was inspired.
With the passage of time, Maximum of the King James Version Translations
errors have been addressed and corrected accurately to reflect the oldest
Manuscript copies of the Scriptures. Biggest and Best effort in this
Restoration & Reformation Effort (One of Many) is the Yahweh’s Restoration
Ministry. Their Restoration Study Bible (RSB) 3rd Edition onwards based
on the King James Version have brought out an accurately corrected and revised KJV
even by restoring the Sacred Names of Yahweh and Yahshua in their rightful place
both in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and Greek Scriptures (New
Testament).
In connection
with the above statement: Bro. Tony. I like it that you
without fail, when reading the Ten Commandments always remind of the
Translation Error that still exists in KJV Bibles at Exodus 20: 13. Wrong
Translation is: "Thou shall not kill." The correct translation should be: "Thou
shall not Murder".
Total of 11
Situations or Instances where the English word, “Worshipped” is used in some
connection with Yahshua:
Matthew 2:11, Matthew 8:2, Matthew 9:18, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 15:25,
Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Mark 5:6, Mark 15:19, Luke 24:52, John 9:38.
Let’s note it
again, lest we forget: In Hebrew language worshipped is
shachah and in Greek
language it is proskuneo.
PROCEEDING FURTHER.......
Strong's Lexicon
[and] worshiped
προσεκύνησαν (prosekynēsan)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
προσεκύνησαν (prosekynēsan)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
HELPS Word-studies
4352 proskynéō (from 4314 /prós,
"towards" and kyneo, "to kiss") –
properly, to kiss the ground when prostrating before a superior;
to worship, ready "to fall down/prostrate oneself to adore
on one's knees" (DNTT); to "do obeisance" (BAGD).
["The basic meaning of 4352 (proskynéō),
in the opinion of most scholars, is to kiss. . . . On
Egyptian reliefs worshipers are represented with outstretched hand throwing a
kiss to (pros-) the deity" (DNTT, 2, 875,876).
4352 (proskyneō) has been (metaphorically) described as
"the kissing-ground" between believers (the Bride) and Christ (the
heavenly Bridegroom). While this is true, 4352 (proskynéō)
suggests the willingness to make all necessary physical gestures of
obeisance.]
Strong’s Greek Dictionary prefers to use the word Worship in English
Translations BUT see the depth of Insight that he is providing above.
Worship in what Sense?
Underlining of the above text is done by me to
provide emphasis.
In brief Strong’s Greek
concludes:
Strong's Greek
|
... Verb Transliteration: proskuneó Phonetic Spelling:
(pros-koo-neh'-o) Definition:
to do reverence to Usage: I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to, worship. . |
Repeatedly if you notice above,
Strong’s uses the word OBEISANCE to explain the meaning of Proskuneo in
English. Also he
uses the word worship. No denying about that too. So what exactly is Proskuneo
and when should the Translators use the word OBEISANCE or WORSHIP depending on
the Greek Language and the complete context of Scripture? What does an accurate
translation demand? Should proskuneó be translated always or sometimes as
Obeisance or Worship?
Meaning of Obeisance in English
language:
Merriam Webster Dictionary Definition of obeisance
1: a movement of the body made in token of respect or submission: BOW After making his obeisance’s he approached the altar.
2: acknowledgment of another's superiority or importance: HOMAGE makes obeisance to her mentors. The players paid obeisance to
their coach.
Cambridge Dictionary meaning of obeisance
noun [ C or U ], formal,
UK /əʊˈbeɪ.səns/ US /oʊˈbeɪ.səns/
the fact of obeying or respecting someone,
or something you do that expresses this:
Collins
Dictionary meaning of word, obeisance
(oʊbeɪsəns) Word forms: plural obeisances
1. UNCOUNTABLE NOUN
[formal]
While he was still young and strong all
paid obeisance to him. [+ to]
2. VARIABLE NOUN
An obeisance is
a physical gesture, especially a bow that you make in order to show your respect for someone or
something.
[formal]
One by one they came forward, mumbled
grudging words of welcome, made awkward obeisance’s.
Meaning of Worship in English language:
Merriam –
Webster Definition of Worship:
1.
Worship
Verb,
wor·ship | \ ˈwər-shəp also ˈwȯr- \
Worshipped also worshiped; worshipping also worshiping
1: to honour or show reverence for as a divine being or supernatural
power
2: to regard with great or extravagant respect, honour, or devotion celebrity worshipped by her fans
: To perform or take part in
worship or an act of worship
2.
Worship
1: reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power also: an act of expressing such reverence
2: a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual
3: extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of
esteem worship of the dollar
4chiefly British: a person of importance —used as a title for various officials (such as
magistrates and some mayors)
Cambridge Dictionary
meaning of worship
Worship verb (RELIGION)
Verb, UK ,
/ˈwɜː.ʃɪp/ US , /ˈwɝː.ʃɪp/, -pp- or US also -p-
More examples
We need a place to worship.
We only worship
one god.
to love, respect, and admire someone or something very much,
often without noticing the bad qualities of
that person or thing:
Her parents worship her.
Thesaurus: synonyms and related words
Worship, noun (RELIGION)
UK, /ˈwɜː.ʃɪp/ US , /ˈwɝː.ʃɪp/,
Local people have complained about improperly dressed tourists entering places of worship (= buildings for religious ceremonies or private prayer).
Worship noun (TITLE)
His, Your, etc. Worship UK formal
used as a title of respect when speaking to or about
a mayor or a magistrate:
[ as form of address ] Thank you, Your Worship.
To
worship is also to go regularly to
a place for religious ceremonies:
Worship verb (ADMIRE)
To feel a lot of love and admiration for
someone or something:
Collins
Dictionary meaning of worship (ˈwɜrʃɪp )
NOUN
1. a.
Reverence or devotion for a deity; religious homage or veneration
3. [W-] Chiefly British
a title
of honor used in speaking to or of magistrates, mayors,
or certain others holding high rank: preceded by Your or
by His or Her
4. Rare
Something
worshiped
5. Rare
6. Archaic
Greatness
of character; honour; dignity; worthiness
VERB TRANSITIVE Word
forms: ˈworshiped or ˈworshipped, ˈworshiping or ˈworshipping
7. To
show religious devotion or reverence for; adore or venerate as a deity
8. To
have intense love or admiration for; adore or idolize
VERB INTRANSITIVE
9. To engage in worship, or perform an act of religious devotion;
specif., to offer prayers, attend church services,
etc.
b) Yahshua
never stopped people worshipping him.
Yahshua came to fulfill the Torah (Laws of his
Heavenly Father Yahweh). Yahshua never, not even once
broke any Torah law. Not even a single one.
Yahshua very well
knew what the Torah said about giving UNDIVIDED WORSHIP TO YAHWEH:
Exodus 20:3
Thou shalt have
no other Mighty ones before me.
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel:
Yahweh our Elohim is one Yahweh.
Deuteronomy 6:14
Ye shall not go
after other mighty ones, of the mighty ones of the people which are around you.
There
are many more Scriptures that can be quoted, showing that Yahshua who came to
fulfil the Law and not to break it, that Elohim Yahweh is always the one to be
primarily worshipped.
Yahshua was born as a Jew in a
Jewish family. He
and the other Jews of Israel all knew that worship to Almighty Elohim cannot be
divided.
In Matthew 22:37 “Yahshua said unto him, THOU SHALT LOVE YAHWEH THY ELOHIM WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL
THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY MIND”.
2000 years ago, no Jew or citizen of Israel believed to divide
their Worship with Yahweh and any other Prophet or Messenger who came in
Yahweh’s name.
Today in the 2020, too no Jew or citizen of Israel worships any
other Mighty one, along with the Most High El. The El Shaddai.
IT’S
UNTHINKABLE. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE. IT’S BLASPHEMOUS. FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
If
Yahshua allowed or did not object people from worshipping him, then he would be
promoting and encouraging people to break the Torah laws. How is that possible?
IN MY EARLIER PART A OF THIS
STUDY ON POINT A)
Many people worshipped Yahshua,
I CLEARLY SHOWED
HOW ALL OF THE 11 TIMES THAT KJV ENGLISH TRANSLATION MENTIONS THE PEOPLE
WORSHIPPING IS A FAULTY TRANSLATION BY CONTEXT, BY SCRIPTURE INTERPRETING
SCRIPTURE AND BY UNDERSTANDING GREEK AND CHECKING OTHER TRANSLATIONS.
Today too, from a serious study on scriptures, one can
conclude by, “Study to shew thyself
approved unto Elohim, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly
dividing the word of truth.” – 2 Timothy 2:15
(RSB) that only Elohim Yahweh is worthy
to be worshipped and not his Son Yahshua. How?
And Yahshua answered and said unto
him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, THOU SHALT WORSHIP YAHWEH THY ELOHIM, AND HIM
ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE. Luke 4:8
(RSB)
Would Yahshua break his
own Father's Laws? NO. Yahshua being
a
mighty El would he allow people to worship him and break his Father Yahweh’s commandments? NO. Did Yahshua even once, say to the people, I am Elohim? Worship me. NO.
mighty El would he allow people to worship him and break his Father Yahweh’s commandments? NO. Did Yahshua even once, say to the people, I am Elohim? Worship me. NO.
Yahshua
had spiritual powers being the Son of Elohim (God).
There is no doubt about that. In the New Testament, there are 11 Situations or
Scenarios recorded within the 4 Gospels where according to KJV Translations and
many other Versions, where allegedly, “many people on varied occasions seem to
have, “Worshipped” Yahshua (Jesus) and he was either quiet about it, or he
ignored it or he did not stop the person from supposedly, worshipping him.
ü Matthew 9:2-4
ESV
“And behold, some people brought to him a paralytic,
lying on a bed. And when Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, “Take
heart, my son; your sins are forgiven.” And behold, some of the scribes said to
themselves, “This man is blaspheming.”
But
Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, “Why do you think evil in your
hearts?”
ü Matthew 9: 20, 21, 22
(RSB)
It apparently seems as though Yahshua could, indeed,
"read people's minds," particularly in reference to the Woman with
the Issue of Blood, which begins in verse 20 of Chapter 9.
In
verse 21, it reads:
“For she said within herself, If
I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole”.
The
key phrase there is "within
herself," which of course implies and states
clearly enough that she was essentially "thinking to herself." She
didn't say it out-loud or merely speak it, or else it wouldn't say, 'within
herself'.
Verse
22 is the implication that Yahshua 'read her mind', in essence:
"But
Yahshua turned him about, and when he saw her,
he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the
woman was made whole from that hour."
Yahshua
supernaturally or miraculously heard what the woman said,
and then He turned around and answered her according to what He heard her say
"within herself."
ü John 4:18 and John
4:29
“For thou hast had five husbands;
and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.” John 4:18 (RSB)
“Come, see a man, which told me
all things that ever I did: is not this the Messiah?” John 4:29 (RSB)
From the above one can easily come to this conclusion, that the 11 times or situations,
when people fell down at Yahshua’s feet, Our Master and Messiah through his
Spiritual powers could have read their hearts and minds and intentions.
Thus surely coming to know that
they were giving him OBEISANCE out of respect and awe and not giving WORSHIP as
in a religious way that was supposed to be given only to the Almighty Creator
Elohim Yahweh.
TODAY,
2000 YEARS AFTER MESSAIH YAHSHUA WALKED ON EARTH, WE CAN STUDY HIS GOSPEL AND
CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THE 11 PEOPLE WERE NOT RELIGIOUSLY WORSHIPPING
YAHSHUA. THEN WOULD YAHSHUA NOT KNOW THAT? HENCE HE NEVER OBJECTED TO THEIR
OBEISANCE. (Falling at his feet out of love, authority, respect, adoration,
homage etc)
FURTHER
CONCLUSIVE POINTS THAT THE PEOPLE DID NOT WORSHIP YAHSHUA:
Did those who knew him during his
lifetime understand Yahshua to be Elohim (God)?
Yahshua would have been stoned to death if he was understood to be claiming he was Elohim (God) when teaching in the temple, and his disciples would have been driven out of the synagogues and stoned if it was understood that they believed Yahshua was Elohim (God). (Acts 13:13-16, 42; Acts 17: 1, 2; Acts 17:1; Acts 18:4; Acts 19:8)
Those Who Knew Yahshua Never Thought
He Was Elohim (God).
Nowhere in the synoptic Gospels (the first Gospels to be written: Matthew, Mark, and Luke) do the family, friends, disciples (or enemies) of Yahshua say anything even hinting that they thought he was Elohim (God) (or that he was teaching or claiming that he was Elohim (God). That such essential new information (if true) should be ignored completely is impossible to believe. Compare all the times Yahshua is called the "Christ" or "Messiah". Since these were written many years before the fourth Gospel, they should show the most important news about Yahshua’s information which is essential for his followers to know. (John 17:3)
Even Yahshua’s Enemies Never Accused
Him of Being Almighty Elohim (God)
Those Jewish leaders who wanted Yahshua dead could have merely said that he claimed to be the Almighty Elohim (God) Yahweh. (An automatic death sentence). But, although they condemned him to death because he claimed to be the Messiah, they never accused him of being Elohim (God) in the Synoptic Gospels. They even hired false witnesses to lie about him, but even those false witnesses did not accuse Yahshua of claiming to be Elohim (God). - Matthew 26:59 -63.
Those Who Knew Yahshua Best Said That He Was Elohim’s (God)'s
Son - Not Elohim (God) Himself
What did those who knew
him best and were taught privately by him have to say about who he was? After
being told that the people believed Yahshua was John the Baptist, Elijah,
Jeremiah, or one of the [other] prophets, Yahshua asked his disciples:
"But who do you say that I am?" The answer was
"the Messiah, the Son of the living Elohim (God)."
Matthew
16:13-20. Neither the people nor the disciples themselves considered
Yahshua to be Elohim (God)! (Compare Mark 8:27-29; Luke 9:18-20.)
Yahshua Would Never Have Been Allowed to Teach in Temple if He
Claimed to Be Elohim (God).
Look at the teachings of Yahshua in the
temple. (Matt.21:23-24:1)
If any of the priests, officials, etc. thought Yahshua had ever even implied
that he was Elohim (God), he would have been killed on the spot. And, for
certain, he would never have been allowed to teach in the temple! But, if by
some miracle, he was allowed to teach there (and there was any doubt whatsoever
that he may have ever claimed that he was Elohim (God) or that any of his
followers believed that he was Elohim (God)), every question to him would have
been about that most important subject of all! But, no, he is never asked about such a topic or thing!
The
Words of the Rulers of the Jews
When
Yahshua was dying, the rulers of the Jews spoke about him. Did they say,
"If he is really Elohim (God), let Him save himself!"? If they thought he claimed to be Elohim
(God), surely they would have said that instead of what they actually said:
"He saved others, let him save himself if he is the chosen one, the
Messiah of Elohim (God)." - Luke 23:25, NAB. (Cf. Matt. 27:42, 43; Mark 15:31, 32.)
SEE HOW THE TRANSLATORS ARE DECIDING WHEN TO USE
WORSHIP AND WHEN TO USE OBEISANCE ON THEIR OWN CHOICE AND DOCTRINAL BIAS. NOT ON THE SAME MEANING IN ENGLISH AS IN STRONGS
DICTIONARY. THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING AS THEY SAY. SEE THE PROOF OF STRONG’S
DICTIONARY WORD NUMBER 7812.
1
Samuel 1:3 (RSB based on KJV)
And this1931 man376 went up5927 out of his city5892 yearly3117 to worship7812 and to sacrifice2076 unto Yahweh3068 of hosts6635 in Shiloh.7887 And the two8147 sons1121 of Eli,5941 Hophni2652 and Phinehas,6372 the priests3548 of Yahweh,3068 were there.
And this1931 man376 went up5927 out of his city5892 yearly3117 to worship7812 and to sacrifice2076 unto Yahweh3068 of hosts6635 in Shiloh.7887 And the two8147 sons1121 of Eli,5941 Hophni2652 and Phinehas,6372 the priests3548 of Yahweh,3068 were there.
Genesis 37:7 (RSB based on KJV)
For, behold, we were binding481 sheaves485 in8432 the field,7704 and, lo,
my sheaf485 arose,6965 and also
stood upright;5324 and,
behold, your sheaves485 stood round
about,5437 and made
obeisance7812 to my sheaf.485
Both the above
Scriptures quoted as examples are from the same Bible that is Restoration Study
Bible-based on King James Version.
From the Online
website of www.m.restorationstudybible.com
let’s see how they use two different words for the one word Number of 7812.
For
1 Samuel 1:3 Strong’s Dictionary Link below:
7812 OT
- Hebrew
Shachah shaw-khaw'
A primitive root; to depress, i.e. prostrate (especially reflexive, in
homage to royalty or God):--bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly
beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.
For
Genesis 37:7 Strong’s Dictionary Link below:
7812 OT
- Hebrew
Shachah shaw-khaw'
A primitive root; to depress, i.e. prostrate (especially reflexive, in
homage to royalty or God):--bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly
beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.
Both above are Hebrew Scriptures of the Old Testament. Both are having the same WORD SHACHAH (7812). But in English language in one place it’s translated
as WORSHIP and another place as OBEISANCE.
SHACHAH is the
Hebrew Word for Strong’s Dictionary of 7812
Strong's Concordance
Shachah: to bow down
Original Word: שָׁחָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shachah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-khaw')
Definition: to bow down
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shachah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-khaw')
Definition: to bow down
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to bow down
NASB Translation
bow (5), bow ourselves down (1), bow yourselves down (1), bow down (21), bowed (16), bowed in worship (1), bowed themselves down (2), bowed down (14), bowing (1), bowing down (1), bows down (1), did homage (1), down in homage (1), homage (1), lie down (1), paid homage (3), prostrate (2), prostrated (13), prostrating (1), weighs it down (1), worship (47), worshiped (31), worshiping (3), worships (2).
a prim. root
Definition
to bow down
NASB Translation
bow (5), bow ourselves down (1), bow yourselves down (1), bow down (21), bowed (16), bowed in worship (1), bowed themselves down (2), bowed down (14), bowing (1), bowing down (1), bows down (1), did homage (1), down in homage (1), homage (1), lie down (1), paid homage (3), prostrate (2), prostrated (13), prostrating (1), weighs it down (1), worship (47), worshiped (31), worshiping (3), worships (2).
Has the word, “Obeisance” never ever,
been used by the Translators of King James Version Bible? Let’s see the facts. And also why they
CHOSE NOT TO USE WORD WORSHIP BUT THEY PREFER TO USE INSTEAD OBESIANCE FOR SHACHAH.
Let’s note it
again, lest we forget: In Hebrew language worshipped is
shachah and in Greek
language it is proskuneo.
"OBEISANCE" in the KJV Bible
9 Instances
For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my
sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round
about, and made obeisance to my sheaf.
And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and
said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon
and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
And they answered, Thy servant our father is in good health, he is
yet alive. And they bowed down their heads, and made obeisance.
And Moses went out to meet his father in law, and did obeisance, and kissed him; and they asked
each other of their welfare; and they came into the tent.
It came even to pass on the third day, that, behold, a man came
out of the camp from Saul with his clothes rent, and earth upon his head: and
so it was, when he came to David, that he fell to the earth, and did obeisance.
And when the woman of Tekoah spake to the king, she fell on her
face to the ground, and did obeisance, and said, Help, O king.
And it was so, that when any man came nigh to him to do him obeisance, he put forth his hand, and
took him, and kissed him.
And Bathsheba bowed, and did obeisance unto the king. And the king said, What wouldest thou?
Now after the death of Jehoiada came the princes of Judah, and
made obeisance to the king. Then the king
hearkened unto them.
Many people argue that the Translators are at the
liberty and choice of their own to decide which word in English represents the to
be translated word in Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek. What this means is that, for any Hebrew or Aramaic
or Greek-inspired word or better said ELOHIM BREATHED word, then the Imperfect
Human Translators who consider themselves Scholars or Linguists’ or Language
specialists or Professional Translators will decide for us English readers as
to what word is to be used & when.
PLEASE NOTE THAT these Human Translators are NOT DIVINELY INSPIRED OR GUIDED by Almighty Elohim Yahweh. They are most of the time either from Roman Catholic or Protestant Evangelical Churches or Secular Individuals or from certain Denomination of Pagan Christendom or from some CULT or SECT or even just plain Atheists. But Translation is their Professional work.
PLEASE NOTE THAT these Human Translators are NOT DIVINELY INSPIRED OR GUIDED by Almighty Elohim Yahweh. They are most of the time either from Roman Catholic or Protestant Evangelical Churches or Secular Individuals or from certain Denomination of Pagan Christendom or from some CULT or SECT or even just plain Atheists. But Translation is their Professional work.
SO HOW CAN WE COME TO
KNOW ACCURATELY WHEN THE WORD OBEISANCE OR WORSHIP HAS TO BE ACCURATELY BE USED
FOR THE HEBREW WORD SHACHAH (7812) AND GREEK WORD PROSKUNEÓ (4352)
- CONTEXT, CONTEXT
CONTEXT. It’s always the
Context of the Scripture that makes things clear for us in the present
modern-day world of English Translation of Hebrew and Greek Scriptures.
The Immediate Context of a Passage
- Context is
important because it forces the interpreter to examine the biblical
writer’s overall flow of thought. The
meaning of any passage is nearly always determined, controlled, or limited by
what appears immediately beforehand and afterward in the text.
- “By
observing what precedes and what follows a passage, the interpreter has greater opportunity to see what the writer was seeking to convey to his original readers. These readers did not plunge into the middle of the letter and seize out a few consecutive sentences. They read carefully the whole document. To treat material fairly the modern interpreter must enter into the total train of thought. No axiom is better known and more
frequently disobeyed than the oft-quoted: ‘A text without
a context is just a pretext.‘
Faithful adherence to context will create in the interpreter a genuine
appreciation for the authority of Scripture.”1 A respect for the authority of Scripture means that we will seek its meaning rather than putting ourselves in authority above Scripture as the determiner of its meaning.
- We all have
a tendency to take verses out of context and use them to support points that we think are important. This is called “proof-texting” — and it is our own attempt to make the Bible say what we want it to say, rather than letting the text of Scripture say what God intended to communicate. “The most
common failure in interpretation is to violate this most simple and basic
principle: the context must control.”
2. SOLA SCRIPTURA meaning, “Scripture Alone” OR in simpler words, let
“Scripture Interpret Scripture”. Isaiah 28:10 (RSB) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a
little:
3. COMPARING MULTIPLE MODERN AND NEWER
TRANSLATIONS TOO:
Using multiple translations can help you overcome blind spots
by helping you see aspects of the text you might otherwise have missed.
1.
CONTEXT OF THE SCRIPTURE CONCERNED
Total of 11 Situations or
Instances:
Matthew 2:11, Matthew 8:2,
Matthew 9:18, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 15:25, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Mark
5:6, Mark 15:19, Luke 24:52, John 9:38.
Matthew 2:11
Matthew 2:11
And when they were come into the
house, they saw the young child with Miriam his mother, and fell down, and
worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto
him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
A professor of Bible languages at
Union Theological Seminary in New York, Dr. Marvin R. Vincent, wrote that in
the KJV (and other old translations into English) some uses
of 'worship' may seem to be "An unfortunate translation, according to
modern English, but justified by the usage of earlier English, according to
which to worship meant simply to honor. Worship is worthship,
or honor paid to dignity or worth. This usage survives in the [British]
expressions 'worshipful' and 'your worship.' In the marriage-service of the
English Church occurs the phrase, 'With my body I thee worship.' So Wycliffe
[one of the earliest English Bible translators] renders Matthew 19:19, 'Worship thy father and thy mother;' and John 12:26, 'If any man serve me, my Father shall
worship him.'" - pp. 533,
534, Word Studies in the New Testament, vol. 1, Sage Software,
1996.
An Act of Respect to Kings, Angels, Prophets, and God
Perhaps the most famous Biblical Hebrew scholar of all, Gesenius, tells us in Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament, p. 813, (#7812), 'Shachah':
"(1) to prostrate oneself before anyone out of honor.... Those who used this mode of salutation fell on their knees and touched the ground with the forehead ..., and this honor was not only shown to superiors, such as kings and princes, 2 Samuel. 9:8; but also to equals; Genesis. 23:7."
The act described by proskuneo (or shachah) was of bowing or kneeling, and it generally indicated an act of respect and a display of one's willingness to submit to or serve another person who occupied a superior position, regardless of his nature (somewhat similar to a salute in the military today).
It was done, of course, in its very highest sense to God alone, but it was also done, in a lower sense of the same word, to kings, angels, prophets, even to Yahshua etc.
Perhaps the most famous Biblical Hebrew scholar of all, Gesenius, tells us in Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament, p. 813, (#7812), 'Shachah':
"(1) to prostrate oneself before anyone out of honor.... Those who used this mode of salutation fell on their knees and touched the ground with the forehead ..., and this honor was not only shown to superiors, such as kings and princes, 2 Samuel. 9:8; but also to equals; Genesis. 23:7."
The act described by proskuneo (or shachah) was of bowing or kneeling, and it generally indicated an act of respect and a display of one's willingness to submit to or serve another person who occupied a superior position, regardless of his nature (somewhat similar to a salute in the military today).
It was done, of course, in its very highest sense to God alone, but it was also done, in a lower sense of the same word, to kings, angels, prophets, even to Yahshua etc.
That
is why proskuneo is translated "prostrated himself
before" at Matt. 18:26 NASB,
even though the KJV uses "worship" there. Notice
how other Trinitarian translations render that verse (RSV and NIV for
example) where a servant "worships" [proskuneo] his master.
And that is why, in the account of the man blind from birth whom Jesus healed,
we see that man giving proskuneo to Jesus at John 9:38. The ASV, in a footnote
for John 9:38, says,
"The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a created human, as here [Yahshua], or to the Creator [Yahweh.]"
At Revelation. 3:9 Jesus shows the position of authority he will give to some of his human followers when he says he will make people "worship before thy feet." - KJV. The word used there is proskuneo!
"The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a created human, as here [Yahshua], or to the Creator [Yahweh.]"
At Revelation. 3:9 Jesus shows the position of authority he will give to some of his human followers when he says he will make people "worship before thy feet." - KJV. The word used there is proskuneo!
The ASV again
adds this footnote:
"The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence whether
paid to a creature, or the Creator."
We can see the same thing at Isaiah. 45:14. Here God, speaking to his faithful human followers of the last days, says: "and they [the rest of surviving mankind] ... shall fall down [shachah - 'worship'] unto thee, they shall make supplication [palal - 'pray': see The Jerusalem Bible and AT] unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else." - KJV, ASV. - cf.
We can see the same thing at Isaiah. 45:14. Here God, speaking to his faithful human followers of the last days, says: "and they [the rest of surviving mankind] ... shall fall down [shachah - 'worship'] unto thee, they shall make supplication [palal - 'pray': see The Jerusalem Bible and AT] unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else." - KJV, ASV. - cf.
Isaiah. 49:23. Even the ancient Greek translation, the Septuagint, says at
Is. 45:14 - "and they ... shall [proskuneo - 'worship']
thee and make supplication [proseuchomai - 'pray'] to thee; and
there is no God beside thee." (Notice all the Trinitarian-type
"evidence" here that could "prove" these men are
"equally God"!) - The
Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, Greek and English, Zondervan Ed., 1970.
So we see that the king of Israel, for example, could receive proskuneo or shachah in his role as a representative of a higher authority (Yahweh), or he could receive it in recognition of his own earthly position of authority that God allowed him to have. For example, at 2 Sam. 14:22 Joab "worships" 'my Lord' (King David). The Hebrew word shachah translated in most places in the Bible as "worship" is here translated "did obeisance" in the RSV. In the Greek Septuagint, the word used is proskuneo. So, in spite of their both sharing the same fleshly human nature, one gave the other proskuneo or shachah!
We see the same thing at 1 Kings 1:16, 31 when Bathsheba gives shachah to her husband and king, David. Not only does the Septuagint use proskuneo for these verses (3 Kings 1:16, 31 in Septuagint.), but at verses 21 and 31 she calls David, "The Lord of me" ("My Lord").
Angels, when acting as representatives of Yahweh and speaking his words, could properly receive proskuneo as representatives for a superior authority.
Genesis. 18:2 uses shachah to describe what Abraham did to the angels (p. 37, New Bible Dictionary, 2nd ed., 1982, Tyndale House Publ.) who came to him, and what Lot did to two of those same angels (shachah) is described at Genesis. 19:1. (Also see Unger and White, pp. 7 and 482.) Proskuneo is also used in these two scriptures in the Septuagint. Also see Numbers 22:31: Balaam "worshiped" (proskuneo - Sept. and shachah ["fell flat" - KJV] - Hebrew OT) the ANGEL and the angel accepted it! (Unlike Revelation. 19:10 and 22:8, 9.)
"The angel of the LORD [Angel of Yahweh], sometimes 'the angel of GOD' or 'my (or 'his') angel’ is represented in Scripture as a heavenly being sent by God to deal with men as his personal spokesman. In many passages, he is virtually identified with God and speaks not merely in the name of God but as God in the first person singular." - New Bible Dictionary, p. 38.
So we see that the king of Israel, for example, could receive proskuneo or shachah in his role as a representative of a higher authority (Yahweh), or he could receive it in recognition of his own earthly position of authority that God allowed him to have. For example, at 2 Sam. 14:22 Joab "worships" 'my Lord' (King David). The Hebrew word shachah translated in most places in the Bible as "worship" is here translated "did obeisance" in the RSV. In the Greek Septuagint, the word used is proskuneo. So, in spite of their both sharing the same fleshly human nature, one gave the other proskuneo or shachah!
We see the same thing at 1 Kings 1:16, 31 when Bathsheba gives shachah to her husband and king, David. Not only does the Septuagint use proskuneo for these verses (3 Kings 1:16, 31 in Septuagint.), but at verses 21 and 31 she calls David, "The Lord of me" ("My Lord").
Angels, when acting as representatives of Yahweh and speaking his words, could properly receive proskuneo as representatives for a superior authority.
Genesis. 18:2 uses shachah to describe what Abraham did to the angels (p. 37, New Bible Dictionary, 2nd ed., 1982, Tyndale House Publ.) who came to him, and what Lot did to two of those same angels (shachah) is described at Genesis. 19:1. (Also see Unger and White, pp. 7 and 482.) Proskuneo is also used in these two scriptures in the Septuagint. Also see Numbers 22:31: Balaam "worshiped" (proskuneo - Sept. and shachah ["fell flat" - KJV] - Hebrew OT) the ANGEL and the angel accepted it! (Unlike Revelation. 19:10 and 22:8, 9.)
"The angel of the LORD [Angel of Yahweh], sometimes 'the angel of GOD' or 'my (or 'his') angel’ is represented in Scripture as a heavenly being sent by God to deal with men as his personal spokesman. In many passages, he is virtually identified with God and speaks not merely in the name of God but as God in the first person singular." - New Bible Dictionary, p. 38.
Mathew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,
saying, Master, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
From the
above Scripture Translation of KJV in the English language, if the
word worshipped is absolutely 100 % accurate, then should not the Leper, who is
worshipping, have said as below:
Elohim, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Yahweh, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
El Shaddai, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Oh Almighty one, if thou wilt, thou canst make me
clean.
Our Father, thou come in Flesh as Son, if thou
wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Oh Most High one, if thou wilt, thou canst make me
clean.
El, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
BUT
CONTEXT IN SCRIPTURE CLEARS THE TRUTH
What did
the Leper say?
Master, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
This
clearly shows that the Leper was not religiously worshipping Yahshua, but was
respectfully giving obeisance to him.
Matthew 9:18
While he spake these things unto them, behold,
there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now
dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
Who allegedly worshipped Yahshua
in the above scripture situation?
A certain Ruler.
What was Yahshua to the above
Ruler in the above Scripture situation?
A Powerful Miracle Worker
A Powerful Healer
A Powerful person who he had faith that Yahshua
could make his dead daughter alive.
A Powerful person who could help his dead daughter.
So in such a situation, what would any Ruler do? Did he come to Yahshua
due to some religious event or activity that he had to bow down and worship
him? NO.
Any ruler acknowledging his own
helplessness, and by
faith showing that he believed that Yahshua was somebody more powerful than any
ruler could be he BOWED DOWN OR FELL AT YAHSHUA'S FEET AS AN ACT OF
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AS AN ACT OF RESPECT.
SIMILAR CUSTOM IN INDIA TOO BUT
IT IS NOT WORSHIP:
All over India, young children or young people BOW DOWN COMPLETELY
AND TOUCH THE FEET OF THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, OLDER RELATIVES AND EVEN
STRANGERS WHO ARE GREAT INDIVIDUALS. Does this mean that they are worshipping
their Elders? NO. Not at all.
So if such similar incidents were
reported in the Bible to be happening with our Messiah Yahshua should we so
simply conclude that all those individuals were worshipping Yahshua?
Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped
him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of Elohim.
If the Apostles traveling in the boat with Yahshua
really were worshipping Yahshua then the above incident reported in scripture
should have read as below:
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped
him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Most High Elohim.
THE ANSWER IS RIGHT THERE IN THE
CONTEXT ITSELF. WHAT IS THE PERSON THINKING WHEN HE OR SHE IS BOWING, OR
FALLING AT FEET OR DOING OBEISANCE OR WORSHIPPING: OF A TRUTH THOU ART THE SON OF ELOHIM
Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Master,
help me.
15:21
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Then Yahshua went thence, and departed into the
coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
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15:22
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And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the
same coasts, and cried unto him, saying,
Have mercy on me, O Master, thou Son of David; my
daughter is grievously vexed
with a demon.
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15:23
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But he answered her not a word. And his disciples
came and besought him, saying,
Send her away; for she crieth after us.
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15:24
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But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto
the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
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15:25
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Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Master,
help me.
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Let’s get the WHO IS WHO IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE
right first. And even
if this woman is giving Worship to Yahshua as we are told to give worship to
ONE AND ONLY ONE ELOHIM Yahweh - Exodus 20: 3, 4, and 5. And World English Bible Hear,
Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one: Then is
she doing right? Bible records people doing both right and wrong. Then should
we also do wrong, just because it is mentioned and recorded in the Bible? That would be Flawed and Wrong logic.
What does the Bible say about
Canaanites?
The Canaanites are mentioned often in the Hebrew Bible.
The stories say that God promised to give the land of
the Canaanites (along with land belonging to several other
groups) over to the Israelites after they escaped from Egypt
What gods did the Canaanites worship?
Like other people of the Ancient Near East Canaanite religious beliefs
were polytheistic, with families typically focusing on the veneration of the dead
in the form of household gods and goddesses, the Elohim, while acknowledging
the existence of other deities such as Baal and El, Asherah, and Astarte.
The woman described in the miracle, the
Syrophoenician woman (Mark 7:26) is also called a "Canaanite" (Matthew 15:22) and is
an unidentified New Testament woman from the region of Tyre and Sidon.
"The woman is ... described as Syrophoenician by race.
Now coming to this point again: Please note that it was a Woman of
Canaan, a Canaanite who if let’s say worshipped Yahshua thinking that he was
Elohim. These Canaanites worshipped multiple deities in their community as
Elohim’s. So it was not much difficult or wrong from her understanding of
worship, to worship Yahshua.
From such above scriptures one of many
where many people worshipped,
let’s say yes, really worshipped Yahshua, should we come to the solid
conclusion that since the Canaanite pagan woman worshipped Yahshua so this
means that Yahshua is Yahweh in flesh?
Matthew 28:9 and Matthew 28:17
Many
translations dare to differ from KJV type of translation, by not using the word
worshipped in English.
Let’s see some of
them below:
Matthew 28:9
Douay-Rheims
Bible
And behold Jesus met them, saying: All hail. But they came up and took hold of his feet, and adored him.
And behold Jesus met them, saying: All hail. But they came up and took hold of his feet, and adored him.
Darby
Bible Translation
And as they went to bring his disciples word, behold also, Jesus met them, saying, Hail! And they coming up took him by the feet, and did him homage.
And as they went to bring his disciples word, behold also, Jesus met them, saying, Hail! And they coming up took him by the feet, and did him homage.
Weymouth
New Testament
And then suddenly they saw Jesus coming to meet them. "Peace be to you," He said. And they came and clasped His feet, bowing to the ground before Him.
And then suddenly they saw Jesus coming to meet them. "Peace be to you," He said. And they came and clasped His feet, bowing to the ground before Him.
Young's
Literal Translation
and as they were going to tell to his disciples, then lo, Jesus met them, saying, 'Hail!' and they having come near, laid hold of his feet, and did bow to him.
and as they were going to tell to his disciples, then lo, Jesus met them, saying, 'Hail!' and they having come near, laid hold of his feet, and did bow to him.
RECENT NEW MOST
RESPECTED SACRED NAME BIBLE TRANSLATION CALLED THE HALLELUYAH SCRIPTURES, HOW DO THEY TRANSLATE MATTHEW 28:9?
Matthew 28:9 – “And as they were going to report to His
talmidim, see,
met them, saying “Greetings!” And they came and held Him by the feet and bowed to Him”
met them, saying “Greetings!” And they came and held Him by the feet and bowed to Him”
WHEN ANSWERING BRIEFLY ABOUT
GREEK WORD PROSKENUEO EVEN STRONG’S
DICTIONARY EMPHASISES ON THE OBEISANCE PART OF THE WORD.
Worshiped
προσεκύνησαν (prosekynēsan)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
προσεκύνησαν (prosekynēsan)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
Matthew 28:17
Many
translations dare to differ from KJV type of translation, by not using the word
worshipped in English.
Let’s see some of
them below:
New
Heart English Bible
When they saw him, they bowed down to him, but some doubted.
When they saw him, they bowed down to him, but some doubted.
Douay-Rheims
Bible
And seeing them they adored: but some doubted.
And seeing them they adored: but some doubted.
Darby
Bible Translation
And when they saw him, they did homage to him: but some doubted.
And when they saw him, they did homage to him: but some doubted.
Weymouth
New Testament
There they saw Him and prostrated themselves before Him. Yet some doubted.
There they saw Him and prostrated themselves before Him. Yet some doubted.
World
English Bible
When they saw him, they bowed down to him, but some doubted.
When they saw him, they bowed down to him, but some doubted.
Young's
Literal Translation
and having seen him, they bowed to him, but some did waver.
and having seen him, they bowed to him, but some did waver.
RECENT NEW MOST
RESPECTED SACRED NAME BIBLE TRANSLATION CALLED THE HALLELUYAH SCRIPTURES, HOW DO THEY TRANSLATE MATTHEW 28:17
“And when they saw
Him, they bowed to Him, but some doubted.”
Meaning of Proskuneo
The New Testament was written in Greek and the most common Greek word translated as worship is
"proskuneo." According to Strong's Concordance "proskuneo"
means "to kiss" as in to kiss the hand of a superior. It is commonly
associated with bowing down or lying prostrate on the ground with the idea of
kissing the ground before someone. Some scholars believe the word actually is
derived from the idea of a dog licking its master’s hand. The idea is to show profound reverence and
submission to someone.
4352 NT
- Greek
[proskunew]
Proskuneo pros-koo-neh'-o
From [proV] - pros 4314 and
a probable derivative of [kuwn] - kuon 2965 (meaning
to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e.
(literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to,
adore):--worship.
The KJV New Testament Greek
Lexicon
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Mark 5:6 “But when
he saw Yahshua afar off, he ran and worshipped him,”
The Unclean
Spirit in the possessed man definitely and confidently knew who Yahshua was. In
fact he or they blurted out publicly making a statement that Yahshua was the
Almighty Elohim Yahweh, right? NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. Why would he or they, the
unclean spirits not, after all just now according to our KJV English translation,
they WORSHIPPED. Let’s see what they have to say as to who exactly is Yahshua.
Please note, these are unclean spirits, so they know about Yahshua just not on
earth but from a Heavenly perspective too.
In Mark 5:7: “And cried with a loud voice, and said,
what have I to do with thee, Yahshua, thou Son of the most high El? I adjure
thee by El, that thou torment me not.”
The Unclean spirits recognized Yahshua as SON OF THE
MOST HIGH ELOHIM. They ADJURED (urge
or request (someone) solemnly or earnestly to do something.)
Hence the
unclean spirits did OBEISANCE and not WORSHIP to Yahshua, whom they rightly and
correctly recognized him as the Son of Elohim and not Elohim himself to be
worshipped.
Mark 15:19
And they smote him on the head
with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him. – Mark 15:19
(RSB)
LET’S SEE
HOW OTHER BIBLE TRANSLATIONS RENDER THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IN THEIR ENGLISH
LANGUAGE TRANSLATIONS:
[and]
bowed
προσεκύνουν (prosekynoun)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
προσεκύνουν (prosekynoun)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's Greek 4352: From pros and a probable derivative of kuon; to fawn or crouch to, i.e. prostrate oneself in homage.
PAY ATTENTION
TO THE ABOVE, IT’S THE SAME WORD (4352) IN GREEK LANGUAGE.
Luke 24:52
And2532 they846 worshipped4352 him846, and returned5290 to1519 Jerusalem2419 with3326 great3173 joy5479:
4352 NT
- Greek
[proskunew]
Proskuneo pros-koo-neh'-o
From [proV] - pros 4314 and
a probable derivative of [kuwn] - kuon 2965 (meaning
to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e.
(literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to,
adore):--worship.
The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon
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John 9:38
On reading the entire John
9 Chapter from Verse 1 till Verse 41, the Context throws lots of light
on whether the cured blind man gave Proskuneo as Worship or as Obeisance.
From Verse
1 till Verse 16,
the Narrative of this Chapter is about how Yahshua cured a Blind man on the
Sabbath day.
The main character of this miraculous
event is the blind man after all because he was the one who was cured of his
blindness from birth. He was the person who first hand experienced a personal
EYE OPENING MIRACLE by Yahshua.
So in this full chapter of John
9,
the Blind man is the WITNESS of Elohim’s miracle done by Yahshua.
The Pharisees were adamant and wanted somehow to prove that Yahshua was
a sinner because he cured a blind man or did a miracle on Sabbath day.
“Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of Elohim, because he keepeth not the Sabbath day. Others said, how can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.” – John 9:16 (RSB)
NOW LET’S JUMP
AHEAD AND JUST QUOTE ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE AND PRESENT A POINT PURPOSELY JUST ON
THE BASIS OF ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE AND SEE HOW IT LOOKS
“And he said, Master, I believe. And he worshipped him.”- John 9:38 (RSB)
Any
preacher or teacher, most of the times, sincerely too accepts the above Greek Word of
Proskuneo as WORSHIPPED and not as OBEISANCE. By trusting that the Bible
Translator must be 100% right? What if
he is not? What does Almighty Elohim Yahweh tell us in his sacred word? To
check or verify or to test only one thing only one time and then to trust
someone always?
New
American Standard Bible
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 1 Thessalonians 5:21
But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; 1 Thessalonians 5:21
SO HOW CAN ONE CAN ONE DISCERN OR UNDERSTAND, THAT THE BLIND MAN WHO COULD NOW SEE, DID HE
CONSIDER YAHSHUA AS ELOHIM AND WORSHIPPED
HIM OR HE DID HE DO OBEISANCE
UNDERSTANDING HIM TO BE A PROPHET OF ELOHIM?
The
Context always has the Answer. Halleluyah.
They say unto the blind man
again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is
a prophet. John
9:17 (RSB)
HE
ANSWERED THAT YAHSHUA IS A PROPHET.
Another
Point. What were
the people who were witnessing the miracles of Yahshua, confessing him to be?
Messiah or Elohim?
The Context
always has the Answer. Halleluyah.
“These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the
Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Messiah, he
should be put out of the synagogue”. John – 9:22 (RSB)
THE PEOPLE WERE CONFESSING THAT YAHSHUA
WAS THE MESSIAH.
In the events happening according to the chapter contents and context of
John 9, NOT A SINGLY PERSON WAS CONSIDERING
YAHSHUA AS ELOHIM. (To be worshipped)
FINALLY
LET’S SAY THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN IS:
“Yahshua heard that they had cast
him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son
of Yahweh?” – John
9:35 (RSB)
WAIT.
Did Yahshua say, “Dost thou
believe on the Elohim Yahweh who came as Son of Yahweh?
NO.
Did Yahshua say, “Dost thou
believe on the Elohim Son of Yahweh?
NO.
Did Yahshua say, “Dost thou
believe on the Elohim of Yahweh?
NO.
Yahshua
at John 9:35 gave the Blind man the answer to
what he was. That is SON OF YAHWEH. Yahshua only asked him if he believed that
he was the Son of Yahweh. Yahshua just wanted the Blind man to answer in the
AFFIRMATIVE.
AND WHAT
DID THE BLIND MAY ANSWER OR SAY:
“And he said, Master, I believe.
And he worshipped him.” – John 9:38 (RSB)
The Blind man believed that
Yahshua was a Prophet of Yahweh. Hence the word Proskuneó here should have been
translated accurately as: “And he did obeisance to him.”
SOME FEW BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT
HAVE CORRECTED THIS WRONG MISTRANSLATION ARE SHOWN BELOW:
JOHN 9:38
Good News Translation
"I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.
"I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
The man bowed in front of Jesus and said, "I believe, Lord."
The man bowed in front of Jesus and said, "I believe, Lord."
Douay-Rheims Bible
And he said: I believe, Lord. And falling down, he adored him.
Darby
Bible Translation
And he said, I believe, Lord: and he did him homage.
And he said, I believe, Lord: and he did him homage.
Weymouth
New Testament
"I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.
"I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.
Young's
Literal Translation
and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him.
and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him.
Halleluyah Scriptures
And he said, “Adonai, I believe.” And
bowed before Him.
New
World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Edition)
He
said: “I do put faith in him. Lord.” And he did obeisance to him.
- SOLA
SRCIPTURA meaning, “Scripture Alone” OR in simpler words, let “Scripture
Interpret Scripture”.
Does the fact that, if Worship is given to Yahshua (Jesus) does
that prove That He is Almighty Elohim (God), Yahweh?
No.
The "worship" given to Yahshua (Jesus) means no more than the "worship" given to king David as God's representative. "And all the congregation blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king." -- 1 Chronicles 29:20, KJV
The "worship" given to King David did not prove that he was God.
But like David, as God's representative, Yahshua (Jesus) is given deference and respect, "worship" in that form as Elohim’s (God's) resurrected Son and heavenly King, but not as Elohim (God).
The
Meaning of the Greek and Hebrew Words 'Proskuneo' and 'Shachah'
The act described by proskuneo (or shachah) was of bowing or kneeling, and it generally indicated an act of respect and a display of one's willingness to submit to or serve another person who occupied a superior position, regardless of his nature (somewhat similar to a salute in the military today).
The Hebrew word most often translated "worship" is shachah, and it is usually rendered as proskuneo in the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament. Unger and White say of this word: "Shachah ... 'to worship, prostrate oneself, bow down.'" And, "The act of bowing down in homage done before a superior [in rank] or a ruler. Thus David 'bowed' himself [shachah] before Saul (1 Sam. 24:8). Sometimes it is a social or economic superior to whom one bows, as when Ruth 'bowed' [shachah] to the ground before Boaz (Ruth 2:10)." - Nelson's Expository Dictionary of the Old Testament, 1980, Thomas Nelson Publ., p. 482.
Even the extremely Trinitarian W. E. Vine writes in his An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 1247:
"PROSKUNEO ... to make obeisance, do reverence to (from pros, towards, and kuneo, to kiss), is the most frequent word rendered 'to worship'. It is used for an act of homage or reverence (a) to God ...; (b) to Christ ...; (c) to a MAN, Matthew. 18:26." ("Obeisance," of course, shows "respect, submission, or reverence" - Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961.)
It was done, of course, in its very highest sense to Elohim (God) alone, but it was also done, in a lower sense of the same word, to kings, angels, prophets, even to Yahshua etc. That is why proskuneo is translated "prostrated himself before" at Matthew. 18:26 NASB, even though the KJV uses "worship" there. Notice how other Trinitarian translations render that verse (RSV and NIV for example) where a servant "worships" [proskuneo] his master. And that is why, in the account of the man blind from birth whom Yahshua (Jesus) healed, we see that man giving proskuneo to Yahshua (Jesus) at John 9:38. The ASV, in a footnote for John 9:38, says,
"The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a created person, as here [Yahshua], or to the Creator [Yahweh]."
3. COMPARING MULTIPLE MODERN AND NEWER
TRANSLATIONS TOO:
Comparing here for Example and Proof of Evidence just the
first Scripture from above that is of Matthew 2:11,
but if you want I can find more evidence for rest of the 10 Scriptures too.
Matthew 2:11
(Restoration Study Bible 3rd
Edition)
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with
Miriam his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their
treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.
Many English translations that do not use the word “Worship” or
“Worshipped”. They dare to follow the narrow path of Truth and not always be
with the Majority who blindly believe and accept anything that is handed down
by traditional translators who can be wrong too.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And entering into the house, they found the child with Mary his mother, and falling down they adored him; and opening their treasures, they offered him gifts; gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
And entering into the house, they found the child with Mary his mother, and falling down they adored him; and opening their treasures, they offered him gifts; gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
The Besorah
Translation
And
coming into the house, they saw the Child with Miryam His mother and fell down and did reverence to Him
and opening their treasures, they presented to Him gifts of gold and
frankincense and myrrh.
Darby Bible Translation
And having come into the house they saw the little child with Mary his mother, and falling down did him homage. And having opened their treasures, they offered to him gifts, gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
And having come into the house they saw the little child with Mary his mother, and falling down did him homage. And having opened their treasures, they offered to him gifts, gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
Weymouth New Testament
So they entered the house; and when they saw the babe with His mother Mary, they prostrated themselves and did Him homage, and opening their treasure-chests offered gifts to Him--gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
So they entered the house; and when they saw the babe with His mother Mary, they prostrated themselves and did Him homage, and opening their treasure-chests offered gifts to Him--gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
Halleluyah
Scriptures
And coming into the house, they saw the Child with Miryam His mother, and fell down and did reverence to Him,
and opening their treasures, they presented to him gifts of gold, and
frankincense, and myrrh.
Young's Literal Translation
and having come to the house, they found the child with Mary his mother, and having fallen down they bowed to him, and having opened their treasures, they presented to him gifts, gold, and frankincense, and myrrh,
and having come to the house, they found the child with Mary his mother, and having fallen down they bowed to him, and having opened their treasures, they presented to him gifts, gold, and frankincense, and myrrh,
New
World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (2013 Study Edition)
And when they went into the house, they saw the
young child with Mary his mother, and falling down, they did obeisance to him.
King James Bible
“Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve.' “
d) Only Elohim should be worshipped. Revelation 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he
said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and
of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
The above mentioned
Scripture Scenario Event is happening between the Apostle John and an Angel
from Heaven.
In our own day,
many confuse the uniqueness of the creator with that which He has created.
Above, both John is
part of Elohim’s (God’s) Creation and so also Angels are created beings in
heaven.
Angels, like men, are created beings. Thus, they are not to be objects of worship: “Let
no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship
of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up
by his fleshly mind” (Colossians. 2:18).
When we see people placing great emphasis upon
angels, even worshiping them
(Satan being an angel), we see the effects of the reprobate mind which rejects the
Almighty Elohim (God) Yahweh.
Those who exchanged the truth of God for the
lie “worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator” (Romans. 1:25).
World English Bible - Romans 1:25
who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Yahshua had a created pre-human existence before coming to Earth. On being tempted by the Angel who
rebelled and became Satan, Yahshua took the opportunity to clear this confusion
as to who has to be ultimately worshipped. At this temptation, Yahshua if he
considered himself as Elohim, then he would have retorted back to Satan saying,
that not me, but it is you who needs to bow down and worship me. BUT NO. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.
But Yahshua rebuked
Satan and told him about the only 1 identity that has to be worshipped.
(Matthew. 4:9-10)
“And he said
to him, “All these things I will give to you if you will fall down to worship
me.”
“Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve.' “
Unlike John,
no rebuke was given when Joshua fell on his face to worship the Commander of
the army of Yahweh.
The same and similar
way that Yahshua did not correct or stop people from worshipping him, because
Yahshua understood that it was obeisance and not religious worship as one gives
to Almighty Elohim.
In fact, the Commander said, “Take your sandal off your foot, for the place
where you stand is holy”
Joshua. 5:14 - (WEB) He said,
"No; but I have come now as commander of Yahweh's army." Joshua fell
on his face to the earth, and worshipped, and said to him, "What does my
lord say to his servant?"
Joshua. 5:15 - (WEB) “The prince
of Yahweh's army said to Joshua, "Take your shoes off your feet; for the
place on which you stand is holy." Joshua did so.”
Study Bible
The Commander of the LORD's Army
13Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in His hand. Joshua approached Him and asked, “Are You for us or for our enemies?” 14“Neither,” He replied. “I have now come as commander of the LORD’s army.” Then Joshua fell facedown in reverence and asked Him, “What does my Lord have to say to His servant?” 15The commander of the LORD’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.…
13Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in His hand. Joshua approached Him and asked, “Are You for us or for our enemies?” 14“Neither,” He replied. “I have now come as commander of the LORD’s army.” Then Joshua fell facedown in reverence and asked Him, “What does my Lord have to say to His servant?” 15The commander of the LORD’s army replied, “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.…
IN CONCLUSION, LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST:
World English Bible
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." – John 4:24
God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." – John 4:24
Let’s just for argument sakes, say that Yahshua accepted worship
from 11 different individuals. He did not object. He did not correct them.
THEN YAHSHUA IS CONTRADICTING HIS VERY OWN TEACHINGS
AT JOHN 4:24 AS YAHSHUA WAS NOT IN SPIRIT FORM, BUT HE WAS IN FLESHLY HUMAN
FORM IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. As
Elohim then he was accepting worship in the flesh.
World English Bible
No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him. John 1:18
World English Bible
No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him. John 1:18
Let’s just for argument sakes, say that Yahshua accepted worship
from 11 different individuals. He did not object. He did not correct them.
IF THE ABOVE IS TO BE BELIEVED, THEN YAHSHUA IS A
LIAR. THIS IS BECAUSE ALL THE
PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, INCLUDING THE 11 PEOPLE WHO ACCORDING TO KJV BIBLE,
WORSHIPPED YAHSHUA, SAW YAHSHUA WITH THEIR OWN EYES. THEN YAHSHUA BECOMES A BIG LIAR. IF HE IS
ELOHIM IN THE FLESH, THEN HIS TEACHING IN JOHN 1:8 IS FALSE.