The pinacle of a man's humility is the day he decides not to be equal with God.
"I am so humble because I never wanted to be equal to God"
Amen to Phil 2:6 Thank you creature Jesus!
"Look how humble I am, I never tried to be equal to God! Imitate me." A man who even considers trying to be equal with God is not a model of humility for others to imitate, he is mentally ill.
Rebutted Answer:
According to your Trinity teaching, all the 3 persons that is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are C0-EQUAL & ALMIGHTY at all times.
You preach, teach and believe that Jesus was God Almighty Yahweh in flesh when on his mission on Earth. Your above statement creates a HUMOROUS CONTRADICTION created by your own incorrect teaching. If Jesus was Almighty God the Son as part of the Trinity, when he was on Earth, then you are insinuating and implying that Jesus did not know this. Otherwise why would there arise a situation or even a possibility that Jesus could want to be equal to God. He could have because he was "the Word sent in Flesh".
He could have because he was "the Word sent in Flesh".
Just as an Angel got tempted to desire to become like the Almighty God Yahweh, (Isaiah 14:12-14) even Jesus could have entertained this idea while he was in Heaven or when he was on Earth.
Exactly what value is there in Paul telling us that Jesus never "grasped at" equality with God if he is a mere creature? Even worse, how it is considered humble to not consider doing something that is impossible for any creature to achieve and therefore delusional? Any creature, angel or man who contemplates equality with God contemplates treason.
Yes.Totally agree. Its Treason.The Angel who rebelled, desired this impossibility, becoming Satan. Jesus did not consider or get tempted in this direction.
A servant is not praised when he tells the king he has no interest in usurping his position. When Jesus rejects being equal with God, it is not humility, it is reality and self-acceptance. If Jesus was in the "form of God" at the transfiguration, but didn't consider "grasping at" equality with God, but was content to continue to live as a creature-man, then Moses, & Elijah are equal to Jesus as our example of humility because they were also given great authority and were also in the "form of God". Moses was even equal to "God" to Pharaoh (Ex 4:16) but called the most humble man on earth (Num 12:3).
OMG: Not in the form of God or even equal to God. Like a TYPE or EXAMPLE. To Pharaoh from a human perspective, Moses represented or was like Yahweh and Aaron was his (Prophet) Speaker.
TRUTH: When God the son, creator, emptied himself of equality with God the Father, and became a man through the incarnation,
THE TRINITARIAN TRUTH: Trinity Teaching, says that all the 3, that is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are CO-EQUAL & ALMIGHTY at all times.
If Jesus was God the Son, in the flesh,then there was no situation or possibility of him to GRASP something that he already has. Thus this would make the writer of Philippians 2:6 totally inaccurate and wrong in his inspired writing.
and submissive to the Father forever, THAT is an example of humility that is both rational and amazing we must imitate! Jesus is not a creature. www.bible.ca/trinity
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Philippians 2:5 -11 (Restoration Study Bible, 04th Edition)
2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Messiah Yahshua:
2:6
Who, being in the form of Elohim, thought it not robbery to be equal with Elohim:
2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2:8
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the stake.
2:9
Wherefore Yahweh also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
2:10
That at the name of Yahshua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
2:11
And that every tongue should confess that Yahshua Messiah is Master, to the glory of Yahweh the Father.
REBUTTAL ANSWER:
PRIESTS & PASTORS, YOU TEACH US ALL AND THEN YOU FORGET TO APPLY THE SAME PRINCIPLE WHILE READING OR STUDYING THE WORD OF GOD. CONTEXT. CONTEXT. CONTEXT. Check the full Scripture in its full Verse, Sentence, Paragraph, Chapter and full Cannon of 66 Books of the Bible.
How Philippians 2 is: 5-7 Meant to Be Understood?
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God". -Phil. 2:6; KJV
To begin with, the context of Phil. 2:3-indicates how Phil. 2:6 should be understood. The context stresses the concept of humility and obedience, and Phil. 2:6 itself is clearly meant as the prime example of this for all Christians. Even The Amplified Bible, for example, translates Phil. 2:3, 5 this way:
"Instead, in the true spirit of humility (lowliness of mind) let each regard the others as better than and superior to himself.... Let this same attitude and purpose and [humble] mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus. -Let Him be your example in humility."
Then that very example of Jesus (Phil. 2:6-8) is given. -Cf. The New International Dictionary of New Testament
The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, vol. 1, p. 547.
Most Trinitarian and Binatarians interpretations of Philippians. 2:6, however, do not show Jesus as regarding God as "better than and superior to himself" in the beginning (as the context demands for this example). Most of them, instead, twist that proper example of humility into just the opposite: an example of a person who regards himself already as equal to the Most High, Almighty God ("thought it not robbery to be equal to God"). Such an interpretation destroys the very purpose (Phil. 2:3) of Jesus' "example in humility" here.
Paul is not telling us to regard ourselves as equal to others. He is clearly using Jesus as his example to teach that each Christian must, as the very Trinitarian Amplified Bible above puts it, "regard others as better than and superior to himself". And yet most Trinitarian translations show Jesus doing the very opposite in this "example in humility" for all Christians.
Something, then, is very wrong with the translation of Philippians. 2:6 in most Trinitarian Bibles. Consider the following:
CONCERNING THE WORD "FORM" [morphe]:
Many Trinitarian Bible scholars attempt to force an interpretation of "form" [morphe] that includes the idea of "essence" or "nature." However, even many Trinitarian Bible scholars admit:
"Morphe is instanced from Homer onwards and means form in the sense of outward appearance." -The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, 1986, Zondervan, p. 705, vol. 1.
Therefore, God, Jesus, and the angels all have the “essence” or “nature” of spirit. Not some new GOD BEING THEORY. This obviously does not make them all equally God! Man, mouse, and canary are certainly not all equally man simply because they all have the same “essence” or “nature” of flesh.
If Paul had intended `nature,' `very essence,' etc., he certainly would not have used a word which means only external appearance (morphe). He would have used one of the words which really mean absolute nature.
CONCERNING THE WORD "HARPAGMOS":
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance (by Trinitarian writer and Trinitarian publisher) tells us that harpagmos means "plunder" and that it comes from the source word harpazo which means: "to seize ... catch away, pluck, take (by force)." -#725; 726, Abingdon Press, 1974 printing.
And the New American Standard Concordance of the Bible (also by Trinitarians) tells us: "harpagmos; from [harpazo]; the act of seizing or the thing seized." And, "harpazo ... to seize, catch up, snatch away." Notice that all have to do with taking something away by force. -# 725; #726, Holman Bible Publ., 1981.
But, in spite of some Trinitarians’reasoning’s and euphemistic renderings, it is clear from the way it was always used in Scripture that harpagmos means either taking something away by force (a verb), or something which has been taken by force (a noun).
Paul certainly wouldn't destroy this example of humility for fellow Christians by saying that Jesus is thinking that it isn't "robbery" (KJV) for him to be equal with the Most High. Besides being a nonsensical statement, it is just the opposite of humility. Instead, to be in harmony with the purpose of Paul's example, we must find a Jesus who regards God as superior to himself and won't give even a moment's thought about attempting to take that most high position himself, but, instead, humbles himself even further.
When even a number of the best Trinitarian scholars are willing to admit the actual meaning (or even an equivalent compromise) of harpagmos at Philippians. 2:6, it becomes necessary for honest-hearted, truth-seeking individuals to admit that Phil. 2:6 not only does not identify Jesus as God, but that it clearly shows Jesus is not Almighty God.