FEMALES ALLOWED LEADING AND TEACHING THE BODY OF MESSIAH?
After the death and
resurrection of ha'Masiach , Yahusha
women continued to play prominent roles in the early movement.
Prominent
Adjective
UK
/ˈprɒm.ɪ.nənt/ US /ˈprɑː.mə.nənt/
Prominent adjective (FAMOUS)
·
very well-known and
important:
·
a prominent Democrat
·
a prominent member of the
Saudi royal family
IN A SENTENCE: The
government should be playing a more prominent role in promoting human rights.
The letters of Paul -
dated to the middle of the first century CE - and his casual greetings to
acquaintances offer fascinating and solid information about many Jewish and
Gentile women who were prominent in the movement.
There is nothing wrong in Women being “prominent”
or famous within the whole Bible.
His letters provide
vivid clues about the kind of activities in which women engaged more generally.
Good. So let’s follow your below statements itself and find
out in Biblical times, Women were prominent or famous in what activities?
He greets Prisca,
Junia, Julia, and Nereus' sister, who worked and traveled as missionaries in
pairs with their husbands or brothers (Romans 16:3, 7, 15).
Romans
16:3, 7, 15 (The Scriptures 2009)
3 Greet Priscilla and Aqulas, my fellow workers in Messiah יהושע,
7 Greet Andronikos and Junias, my relatives and my fellow
prisoners, who are eminent among the emissaries, who also were in Messiah
before me.
15 Greet Philologos and Julia, Nereus and his
sister, and Olumpas, and all the set-apart ones who are with them.
Paul in the above letters mentions about
many Sisters (female worshippers) involved in the Gospel work as Co Workers,
Fellow Workers, as Missionaries. NOTHING WRONG IN THAT. Women are welcome to do Missionary
work. They are allowed to Preach, Teach as Missionaries.
In reference to Scripture 7 of Romans
Chapter 16:
What does the word emissaries mean?
An emissary is often a
person who is sent somewhere in order to act as a representative. The key
in that sentence is sent; emissary derives from Latin emissus, the past participle
of the verb emittere, meaning "to send out." By the early 17th
century, it was a commonly seen and heard word.
A
Missionary or Emissary (even a Female) is SENT OUT to the Gentiles and Non-Believers.
Missionaries preach and teach the non-believers. They are SENT OUT. Not SENT IN
to the Assemblies to teach and preach the body of the Messiah.
missionary
/ˈmɪʃ(ə)n(ə)ri/
noun
1.
a person sent on a
religious mission, especially one sent to promote Christianity in a foreign
country.
PROMINENT seems to be the ever favorite
word in this article.
Romans 16:6, 12
6 Greet Miryam, who worked very
hard for us.
12 Greet Truphaina and Truphosa,
who work in יהוה. Greet the beloved Persis, who worked very hard in יהוה.
Dear Brother, the above two Scriptures talk about the
Sisters WORKING HARD in the faith of Yahweh. As earlier shown, they could be
excellent preachers, teachers of their faith when SENT OUT as Emissaries or
Missionaries too.
How and Why do you make the connection of
WOMEN WORKING HARD in their Preaching and Teaching missions, means or qualifies
them to PREACH AND TEACH THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE FAITH
OF YAHSHUA & YAHWEH, INSIDE THE ASSEMBLIES OR CONGREGATION OR CHURCH?
I REPEAT, Working hard OUT.
Matthew 9:37 New
International Version
“Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is
plentiful but the workers are few.”
The
HARVEST is OUTSIDE in the FIELDS of HUMANITY OF NON BELIEVERS. The Harvest is
NOT INSIDE the Assembly of already FAITHFUL BELIEVERS.
I totally agree and accept and full of thanks and gratitude, that females can become Missionaries. Bible supports this.
Paul's letters also
offer some important glimpses into the inner workings of ancient Christian
churches. These groups did not own church buildings but met in homes, no doubt
due in part to the fact that Christianity was not legal in the Roman world of
its day and in part because of the enormous expense to such fledgling
societies.
Such homes were a
domain in which women played key roles. It is not surprising then to see women
taking leadership roles in house churches. Paul tells of women who were the
leaders of such house churches (Apphia in Philemon 2; Prisca in I Corinthians
16:19). This practice is confirmed by other texts that also mention women who
headed churches in their homes, such as Lydia of Thyatira (Acts 16:15) and
Nympha of Laodicea (Colossians 4:15).
The main
subject or topic you addressed above is that WOMEN WERE LEADERS IN HOUSE
CHURCHES. Let’s thoroughly check it out.
Paul tells of women
who were the leaders of such house churches (Apphia in Philemon 2; Prisca in I
Corinthians 16:19).
Philemon 2
1 Sha’ul, a prisoner of Messiah יהושע,
and Timotiyos the brother, to Pileymon our beloved one and fellow worker,
2 and Apphia our sister, and
Archippos our fellow soldier, and the assembly at your house:
3 Favour to you and peace from Elohim our Father and the Master יהושע Messiah.
Dear Brother, Where in the above
Scripture at Philemon 2, is it mentioned that APPHIA OUR SISTER IS LEADER OF
THIS HOUSE CHURCH?
They are
just Greetings and Sister Apphia who is part of this house church, is also
mentioned. That’s all.
1 Corinthians 16:19
19 The assemblies of Asia greet you. Aqulas and Priscilla greet you heartily in the Master, with the assembly that is in their house.
The
Assemblies of Asia have communicated greetings to Sister Priscilla. So from
this simple statement, you brother DEDUCE (Assume and Presume) on your own,
that Priscilla is LEADER OF THAT HOUSE CHURCH. (OMG) Oh My Goodness.
Women held offices
and played significant roles in group worship. Paul, for example, greets a
deacon named Phoebe (Romans 16:1)
Romans 16:1
New
International Version
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae.
New
Living Translation
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a deacon in the church in Cenchrea.
English
Standard Version
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church at Cenchreae,
Berean
Standard Bible
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea.
Many
English Translations of the Greek New Testament Scriptures use the word DEACON
as can be seen above in 2 out of the 4 translations presented above.
You Dear
Brother too have used the word DEACON in your above statement.
What is the full meaning of deacon?
dea·con ˈdē-kən. plural deacons. : a subordinate
officer in a Christian church: such as. : a Roman Catholic, Anglican, or
Eastern Orthodox cleric ranking next below a priest. : one of the laity elected
by a church with congregational polity to serve in worship, in pastoral care,
and on administrative committees.
Now let’s check from what Greek word was DEACON or SERVANT translated from?
Lexicon :: Strong's G1249 - diakonos
διάκονος
Transliteration
diakonos (Key)
Pronunciation
dee-ak'-on-os
Part of Speech
masculine/feminine
noun
Root Word (Etymology)
Probably from an
obsolete diako (to run on errands, cf διώκω (G1377))
Greek Inflections
of διάκονος [?]
mGNT
29x in 6 unique form(s) TR
31x in 8 unique form(s) LXX
5x in 3 unique form(s)
Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry
TDNT Reference: 2:88,152
Trench's Synonyms: ix. θεράπων, δοῦλος, διάκονος, οἰκέτης,
ὑπηρέτης.
KJV Translation Count
— Total: 31x
The KJV translates Strong's G1249
in the following manner: minister (20x), servant (8x), deacon (3x).
Outline of Biblical
Usage [?]
I.
one who executes the
commands of another, esp. of a master, a servant, attendant, minister
A.
the servant of a king
B.
a deacon, one who, by
virtue of the office assigned to him by the church, cares for the poor and has
charge of and distributes the money collected for their use
C.
a waiter, one who serves
food and drink
Strong’s
Definitions [?](Strong’s
Definitions Legend)
διάκονος diákonos, dee-ak'-on-os;
probably from an obsolete διάκω diákō (to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table
or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor
(technically, a deacon or deaconess):—deacon, minister, servant.
STRONGS G1249:
διάκονος, διακονου, ὁ, ἡ, (of uncertain
origin, but by no means, as was formerly thought, compounded of διά and κόνις, so as to mean, properly, 'raising dust by
hastening'; cf. ἐγκονεῖν; for α in the preposition διά is short, in διάκονος, long. Buttmann Lexil.
i., p. 218ff [English translation, p. 231f] thinks it is derived from the
obsolete διάκω equivalent
to διήκω [allied
with διώκω; cf. Vanicek, p.
363]); one who executes the commands of another,
especially of a master; a servant, attendant, minister;
2. a deacon, one
who, by virtue of the office assigned him by the church, cares for the poor and
has charge of and distributes the money collected for their use [cf. BB.
DD., Dictionary of Christian Antiquities, Schaff-Herzog under the word
Deacon; Bp. Lightfoot's Commentary on Philippians, dissert. i. §
i.; Julius Mϋller, Dogmatische Abhandlungen, p.
560ff]: Philippians 1:1; 1 Timothy 3:8, 12, cf. Acts 6:3ff; ἡ διάκονος, a deaconess (ministra,
Pliny, epistles 10, 97), a woman to whom the care of either poor or sick women
was entrusted, Romans 16:1 [cf.
Dictionaries as above, under the word Deaconess; Lightfoot as above, p.
191; B. D. under the word Phœbe].
[Synonyms: διάκονος, δοῦλος, θεράπων, ὑπηρέτης: "διάκονος represents the servant in his activity for the work; not in his relation, either servile, as that of the δοῦλος, or more voluntary, as in the case of the θεράπων, to a person" Trench; [yet cf. e. g. Romans 13:4; 2 Corinthians 6:4, etc.]. δοῦλος opposed to ἑλεύθερος, and correlate to δεσπότης or κύριος, denotes a bondman, one who sustains a permanent servile relation to another. θεράπων is the voluntary performer of services, whether as a freeman or a slave; it is a nobler, tenderer word than δοῦλος. ὑπηρ. according to its etymology suggests subordination. Cf. Trench § 9; B. D. under the word Minister; Meyer on Ephesians 3:7; Schmidt ch. 164.]
This practice is
confirmed by other texts that also mention women who headed churches in their
homes, such as Lydia of Thyatira (Acts 16:15) and Nympha of Laodicea
(Colossians 4:15).
Acts
16:15
15 And when she was immersed, and her household, she
begged us, saying, “If you have judged me to be believing in the Master, come
to my house and stay.” And she urged us.
Dear
Brother, does the above Scripture at Verse 15 of Acts Chapter 16 REFER TO
WOMEN WHO HEADED CHURCHES IN THEIR HOMES? Really?
Let’s check it out.
On the Contrary of your WRONG LEADERSHIP OF LYDIA CONCLUSION, here Elohim’s Word mentions that she was faithfully worshipping Elohim while going about her business in some cloth material. But she was not IMMERSED or Baptized in Yahshua’s name. Hence Verse 15 as can be seen above in red color , When Paul IMMERSED (Baptized) her, she as a fellow believer NOT AS A HOUSE CHURCH LEADER, invites and welcomes Paul to stay in her house.
Dear Brother, You are honestly mentioning in our above
statement that someone is ASSUMING (believing without facts or proof or
evidence) and you used the word PERHAPS (again you are doubtful and not sure.
It’s like saying MAYBE Yes, MAYBE Not)
Your
entire above paragraph as sincerely admitted by yourself is based ON
ASSUMPTIONS AND PRESUMPTIONS and not on Scriptural fact.
Deborah says to
Barak: “Look, the Yahuah , the Elohom of
Israel, has commanded” (Judg. 4:6). Huldah similarly uses the prophetic
introductory formula: “Thus says the Yahuah the Elohim of Israel…” (2 Kings
22:15). Scripture, then, describes a woman prophet as someone through whom God
speaks to his people. In this regard, a “prophetess” is no different than her
male counterpart, the “prophet” (nābī’).
Judges 4:6 (The Scriptures Version 2009)
6 And she sent and called for Baraq
son of Aḇino‛am from Qeḏesh in Naphtali, and said to him, “Has not יהוה
Elohim of Yisra’ĕl commanded, ‘Go, and you shall draw towards Mount Taḇor, and
shall take with you ten thousand men of the sons of Naphtali and of the sons of
Zeḇulun,
Deborah is confirming or re confirming
the commandment of Yahweh here: “Has not יהוה Elohim of Yisra’ĕl commanded, ‘Go, and you shall draw
towards Mount Taḇor, and shall take with you ten thousand men of the sons of
Naphtali and of the sons of Zeḇulun,
2 Kings 22: 15 (The Scriptures Version 2009)
15 And she said to them, “Thus said
יהוה Elohim of Yisra’ĕl, ‘Say to the man who sent you to Me,
Just
like Female Deborah, another Female Huldah to reminds about the Saying of
Elohim Yahweh.
Agree and Accept this. But it’s just an introduction.
Dear
Brother USING THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE VERSE 15, IN 22 CHAPTER OF 2 KINGS, where
does this one specific scripture MAKE THE CLAIM THAT YOU ARE MAKING????
Revelation 19 : 10
10 I fell at his feet to worship
him; but he said, “Don’t do that! I’m only a fellow-servant with you and your
brothers who have the testimony of Yeshua. Worship God! For the testimony of
Yeshua is the Spirit of prophecy.”
On the day of Pentecost
how many disciples where there?
12 Then they returned
the Shabbat-walk distance from the Mount of Olives to Yerushalayim. 13 After
entering the city, they went to the upstairs room where they were staying. The
names of the emissaries were Kefa, Ya‘akov, Yochanan, Andrew, Philip, T’oma,
Bar-Talmai, Mattityahu, Ya‘akov Ben-Halfai, Shim‘on “the Zealot,” and Y’hudah
Ben-Ya‘akov. 14 These all devoted themselves single-mindedly to prayer, along
with some women, including Miryam (Yeshua’s mother), and his brothers.
I COPY PASTE THE ABOVE CONTEXT FOR EMPHASIS ITSELF:
14 These all devoted themselves single-mindedly to prayer, along with some women, including Miryam (Yeshua’s
mother), and his brothers.
Women and Female Worshippers of Yahweh ARE ALLOWED TO
PRAY.
15 During this
period, when the group of believers numbered about 120
On the day of
Pentecost they are in the temple when the Ruah descended on them as flames of
fire :
Now concerning
spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be ignorant.
...for to one is
given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge
through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts
of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another
prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of
tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
But one and the same
Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He
wills."
1 Cor 12:1; 8-11)